Lost at love

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Love me or leave me. Of course I will cry but I will cry 10 times as much if you betray me with somebody. No I have no problem falling in love. To trust somebody again, that is my problem. Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine. Pain is a part of life we can not be without.

If there is no pain then how are we suppose to know truth? No pain, no gain. What do most of us do when we suffer inside? We pray to God for help, right? For answers. To take the pain away. It’s the way to know God. Victoria

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. You didn’t seem to mind when you thought you were the stud she chose. You kept her off the market for other men and said "stay away, she’s mine!" Well, she ain’t yours anymore.  Won’t it be nice to think of OTHER MEN FUCKING WHAT USED TO BE YOUR WIFE? Maybe it was your STATUS she was after and the financial

advantages she gets in divorce court instead? Maybe you weren’t much of a man at all? Ray Gordon, GENIUS

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They help take the edge off, and THAT *is* worth something!   Anything that helps at this point is worth considering, Michael. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – . I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job. If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Micheal, take it from me, if you need antidepressants, get them. The hurt, anger, sleepless nights, etc will interfere much more with your job than an antidepressant. I took them with my second divorce and they probably saved my job. Talk to your doc about the side effects, the new ones are not bad at all —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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she does have my consent.  It is better this way for the moment.  Believe me we tried to come up with other arrangements.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children. JustMe… Though I am far from being an authority on child custody, are you sure that she can take the children out of state without your approval? I do know, firsthand, that in Ontario I would be breaking the law if I took our children out of province without the consent of their father <NOT that I would ever wish to put distance between their relationship.  Even if there is documented proof of abuse by the noncustodial parent <as in my case, the custodial parent is legally bound to provide any children reasonable access to the other parent. It would be in your best interest to seek the advice of your lawyer before she attempts to move. Good Luck! Kats

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know how much it hurts….but sometimes that decision is out of our control.  Time is the only thing that will help. That and a reality check for men who have MONEY that the women want the MONEY more than they want the MAN. Any man who’s ever put down a guy like me because of how he lives DESERVES to go through something like this. Many such men don’t realize how badly their wives want me either. Ray Gordon, GENIUS

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. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though.

Micheal, take it from me, if you need antidepressants, get them. The hurt, anger, sleepless nights, etc will interfere much more with your job than an antidepressant. I took them with my second divorce and they probably saved my job. Talk to your doc about the side effects, the new ones are not bad at all —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I know the feeling of being destroyed Michael and my heart goes out to you. Right now  it feels like your life has turned upside down, but just hang on, while your life may never be the same things will get better.  Please do consider contacting a lawyer, I have seen time and time again how divorce can take a reasonable person and turns them into someone you wouldn’t even recognize. Lori Mc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes they do need both parents but it is what is good for them at the moment. I will still be able to see them.  She would never keep my children from me, we aren’t hostile to each other.  I’m just destroyed by this. Michael, Why is she taking the kids out of state?? Have you agreed to this??? If she takes them out of state will you be able to see the children??  For the children’s sake and yours get off your butt and call a lawyer.  Kids need contact with both parents. Lori Mc Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Love me or leave me. Of course I will cry but I will cry 10 times as much if you betray me with somebody. No I have no problem falling in love. To trust somebody again, that is my problem. Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

Pain is a part of life we can not be without.

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Just me, I understand what you are going through. Many of us here have gone through the same thing.  Please take Lori’s advise to heart and at least talk to a lawyer.  Being in the Navy you should have free access to legal advise at a minimum.  I do not know the laws in Colorado, but she probably cannot take the children out of state without some type of legal stipulation.   As far as her not being hostile,  anyone here will tell you that that can change in a split second as soon as she thinks you are trying to control her movements.   You have pain, yes, but don’t increase your suffering by being unprepared. DEK

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yes they do need both parents but it is what is good for them at the moment. I will still be able to see them.  She would never keep my children from me, we aren’t hostile to each other.  I’m just destroyed by this. Michael, Why is she taking the kids out of state?? Have you agreed to this??? If she takes them out of state will you be able to see the children??  For the children’s sake and yours get off your butt and call a lawyer.  Kids need contact with both parents. Lori Mc Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I know how much it hurts….but sometimes that decision is out of our control.  Time is the only thing that will help.

That and a reality check for men who have MONEY that the women want the MONEY more than they want the MAN. Any man who’s ever put down a guy like me because of how he lives DESERVES to go through something like this. Many such men don’t realize how badly their wives want me either. Ray Gordon, GENIUS http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html

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The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children.

JustMe… Though I am far from being an authority on child custody, are you sure that she can take the children out of state without your approval? I do know, firsthand, that in Ontario I would be breaking the law if I took our children out of province without the consent of their father <NOT that I would ever wish to put distance between their relationship.  Even if there is documented proof of abuse by the noncustodial parent <as in my case, the custodial parent is legally bound to provide any children reasonable access to the other parent. It would be in your best interest to seek the advice of your lawyer before she attempts to move. Good Luck! Kats

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Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael.

You didn’t seem to mind when you thought you were the stud she chose. You kept her off the market for other men and said "stay away, she’s mine!" Well, she ain’t yours anymore.  Won’t it be nice to think of OTHER MEN FUCKING WHAT USED TO BE YOUR WIFE? Maybe it was your STATUS she was after and the financial advantages she gets in divorce court instead? Maybe you weren’t much of a man at all?   Ray Gordon, GENIUS http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html

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I know how much it hurts….but sometimes that decision is out of our control.  Time is the only thing that will help. Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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i’m an electrician anti depressants dont really alter anything other than take the edge off the highs and lows my wife got off 10 weeks ago havent spoke to her for 7 weeks together for 18 years totallt out of the blue she has become ‘Somone else’ spent weeks watching every crap film on sky tv trying to take my mind off it helped a little I can see that time will help but I will never get over it and I will live my life without a woman I couldnt face this pain again I want my wife back but she is a different person now and our life could never be the same once the trust has gone there is no hope that it will work I still cry but I try to stop myself by not looking at the past and tryingf all the useless analysis of what went wrong every time the depression hits you just say to yourself "time to move on" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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Yes they do need both parents but it is what is good for them at the moment. I will still be able to see them.  She would never keep my children from me, we aren’t hostile to each other.  I’m just destroyed by this.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael, Why is she taking the kids out of state?? Have you agreed to this??? If she takes them out of state will you be able to see the children??  For the children’s sake and yours get off your butt and call a lawyer.  Kids need contact with both parents. Lori Mc Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children.

Isn’t there a way to stop her from taking the children away?  They need you both.  Out of the state is usually a pretty long drive.  If she MUST take the kids, can she stay nearby as long as they are young?  This is so important!

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No I am unable to provide her with the help she needs due to my job requirements (going to sea).  She is going where she has family to help her so she can get a job that will enable her to support herself and the children (she wants to do it on her own).  Neither of us have family here.

The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here. She is leaving the state and taking our children. Isn’t there a way to stop her from taking the children away?  They need you both.  Out of the state is usually a pretty long drive.  If she MUST take the kids, can she stay nearby as long as they are young?  This is so

important!

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Michael, Why is she taking the kids out of state?? Have you agreed to this??? If she takes them out of state will you be able to see the children??  For the children’s sake and yours get off your butt and call a lawyer.  Kids need contact with both parents. Lori Mc

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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Our 6-year anniversary is the 13 of July. Best times of my life obviously not so for her. No I haven’t read any books on anything yet. Mostly sit around not doing anything. I am in the Navy and antidepressants would interfere with my job.  If I can’t do my job I can’t help my children (we have three). The name JustMe is because in a little while it will just be me here.  She is leaving the state and taking our children. However, you can call me Michael. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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Wow!   That is *too* recent!  No wonder you feel so hopeless!   I can offer you this note of encouragement:  it really *does* get easier to accept with time, although at this point, I imagine you must think I am the one that’s delusional by saying that.  Everybody in this newsgroup will tell you the same thing, though.  With only a week under your belt, I imagine it feels like your whole world is coming apart. How long were you married?   Have you bought and read any books on divorce (on feelings, not the legal stuff) yet?  Have you seen your doc about possibly getting some antidepressants (that can help)?   (Should I address you as "Just Me")? Bill in Colorado – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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She’s still here.  Last week she told me that she wants a divorce. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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It is just going to take a long, long, time, but they say we will get there someday.  :-( I don’t recall how recently this happened to you, though. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her. It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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Thank you, but I don’t want to let go of her.  I married her because I love her and I promised to love her forever.  I don’t know how not to love her. I need her in my life and I can’t get past the thought of not being with her.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It hurts yes…..but I must say I’m glad that I’ve loved in the past, and I’ll continue to love in the future.  The love of my first marriage gave me my children, the love in my second marriage, allthough was misguided taught me alot as well…and the new love I have recently been treasured with is the best of all.  So…I would have to say allthough it hurt like hell I’m glad I had to go through it.  And I would also add that there is alot of different kind of hurting out there, the loss of a love, the loss of life, etc….it all has a reason, we just hurt too much to see it right now. It won’t hurt forever, hang onto that thought. Daisy Whoever said, "It’s better to have lost at love than to have never loved at all," is severely disturbed. It’s better to never have had this pain in my life.  Losing at love hurts more than anything else that I can imagine.

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