"I am now the undisputed Queen of my house."
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In article <792lbs$ib…@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote:
I don’t see why everyone is so bent out of shape about Lady Misato. I’ve been trying to get my wife to exert her power for over a year now. Unfortunately the results have been mixed. If we had a relationship like Ms. Misato describes, that would be marital bliss! Think of the attention I would receive. Another thing, (if I may speak for her) Ms. Misato is not an advocate of feminism. She believes in Matriarchy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> A wife wrote to me recently: > "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at > first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has > been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up > emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came > home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, > then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You > know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a > few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him > cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here > and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would > do just about anything." > Another wife wrote: > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > on letting him do that." > To find out what the fuss is all about visit: > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:26:58 GMT, Aaron R Kulkis <akul…@flash.net> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Pete Turk wrote: >> In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990201025239.12035B- >> 100…@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, The Good Reverend <grou…@gladstone.uore >> gon.edu> writes >> >From the desk of the Reverend Coyote Moon, High Priest of Dionysus… >> >Aaron, allowing some content-based framework, said… >> >> ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> > A wife wrote to me recently: >> >> > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband >> >> > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage >> >> > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe >> >> > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not >> >> > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web >> >> > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to >> >> > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and >> >> > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that >> >> > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I >> >plan >> >> > on letting him do that." >> >> This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of >> >> garbage >> >> that I have seen in several years. >> >> ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of >> >> men should take a look at this page. >> >While I’m still fuzzy on the whole concept of feminism and what it’s all >> >about (intend to sit in on some feminism classes soon, and I can’t say I >> >know enough about it to make statements like that) I completely agree. >> Reverend, As you saw, the whole of Misato’s URL is >> devoted to turning a marriage into a manipulative >> one-sided tyranny. It’s not marriage, and it’s certainly >> not romance. >Yet it’s typical thinking of American women, Pete. >> Folks, the URL’s summed-up in this "anonymous"(!) >> quote from Misato: >> "Men are like a fine wine. They all start >> out like grapes, and it’s *our job to stomp >> on them* and keep them in the dark until >> they mature into something you’d like to >> have dinner with." — Anonymous >> (my italics) >Typical attitude of a lot of American women… you know, the >type who empty the bank account, and deplete all other liquid >assets (earned by their husband) the day before having the same >man who provided all of that wealth served with divorce papers. >Pete, I’ve seen it toooooooooooo many times to think it’s just >a series of coincidences. >> But the one thing I don’t see is — Feminism! The >> word’s not in the URL, which doesn’t pretend to be for >> the good of women in general, just one very foolish >> married woman in particular. >There’s no need to. >> So, Aaron, I’ve looked, and I still don’t believe >> that Feminism is about subjugation — any more than >> romance is. True, there are women (like men) who >> are dominating, are tyrannical, are fascist — >> in the sense that they HATE all members of a given >> category (e.g.. men, women, blacks, Jews, children etc.) >> Women who feel like this have been called "femi-nazi", >> and the average woman in the UK avoids them like >> the plague. AFAIK, they’ve nothing to say to feminists >> apart from their own negative example. >> (fao anyone bar Aaron: for a FAQ from news.answers that >> enlarges on this try: soc.feminism Terminologies by Cindy >> Tittle Moore) >I don’t give two hoots about what politically palatable words >they use in FAQ’s. Misato’s page is the TRUE FACE of feminism. >(Ever hear of a Potomkin Village?) >> Which of course goes far to explain your *rabid* >> reaction, Aaron. In spite of your blatantly token >> exceptions, you hate whole categories of people, just >> like fascists. You don’t hate people for what they *do*, >> you hate them for what they *are*. >Yes, I hate whole categories of people–those categories being >defined by THEIR BELIEFS and THEIR BEHAVIOR. >> >Unless the post was a joke. In which case, it sucked. >> "Lady" Misato’s a troll, and certainly no lady. >No..she posts relentlessly in soc.men for the sole purpose of >sidetracking any meaningful discussion. The woman is the >essance of hatred towards ALL men. >> Pete Turk <P…@ragtag.demon.co.uk> ICQ# 11981084 >> RFA Moonshadow >> — >> May your doorstep ever be dirty. >> — Romany blessing
Is it just Oral now that Clinton says it isnt sex?
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I’m in the camp of the FrostBear on this one. I’ve been working at developing a relationship like Ms. Misato writes about for over a year. I’m doing the things Ms. Misato thinks a husband should do. I just don’t get the response she writes about in her essay ‘Real Women Don’t do housework.’ I don’t know whether to "go on strike" or keep doing the unilateral things to put fire in her engine. In article <36B72481.CC6EA…@san.rr.com>, Courageous <jkras…@san.rr.com> wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> FrostBear wrote: > > Very interesting topic, but I have a questions for you. what if the male is > > already doing all those things for the woman and she doesn’t respond at all. She > > doesn’t want sex or need the intimacy I crave. I have always perched my wife on a > > pedestal since we have been married (16 years) and I get nothing in return most > > times. I feel so envious to men who have a woman like you. I also can never > > understand why men treat you so badly. I know if I ever got a woman to be as > > intimate, sensitive and romantic as I am I would give her the moon. Any ideas?? > > Let me know at frosth…@hotmail.com > During a relationship, a man feels the most loved when he is making > love. Conversely, a woman feels the most loved when she is the > recipient of touching, affection, and gestures of romance. Both > parties must understand and participate in both sides of this for > relationships to generally work out. > I’m curious, when is the last time you took your wife out on a real > date? And when is the last time you tried a candle lit dinner? Did > you consider it’s possible that her needs aren’t being met, either? > Honestly, I can hardly know anything real about your relationship, > but the best way to repair it is to take unilateral steps towards doing > so by yourself. A renewed romance, after 16 years, might do wonders > for you. > It’s worth a try, don’t you think? > C/
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A wife wrote to me recently: "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would do just about anything." Another wife wrote:
"You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan on letting him do that." To find out what the fuss is all about visit: http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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>A wife wrote to me recently: >"Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at >first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has >been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up >emotionally,
snip… What a bunch of shit. I wonder how people would feel if we had the roles reversed?
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misscee wrote: > (Bobodean) wrote: > > What a bunch of shit. I wonder how people would feel if we had the roles > > reversed? > That’s an excellent point…but as long as it’s a consentual thing I don’t > see anything wrong with either a wife or husband submitting to their > spouse. But I wouldn’t submit that’s for sure. > Miss Cee
My wife calls it…."keeping her man happy!"
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This whole idea seems kind of manipulative to me…I always thought sex should be a two way street…I consider myself to be an aggressive lover…and my so is my partner…we give to each other and the sex is great…he would fuck me or lick me anywhere or any time I ask him…and I wouldn’t have to play the mind games…I guess there are some men who would fall for this little scheme…but to be honest, I wouldn’t want a man that I could manipulate like this…I need a REAL man… As far as "Real women don’t do housework.." why not ? I am very much a woman and do housework every day…I think a woman should take care of her man and then he in turn will take care of her…this is not something I’ve heard either….I know it’s true…been there ! It’s sorta funny when I think about it…there is no way I could try this with my lover…it just wouldn’t work..and I wouldn’t have it any other way …. ~Lust~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Aaron R Kulkis wrote: > ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > > A wife wrote to me recently: > > "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at > > first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has > > been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up > > emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came > > home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, > > then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You > > know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a > > few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him > > cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here > > and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would > > do just about anything." > > Another wife wrote: > > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > > on letting him do that." > This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of > garbage > that I have seen in several years. > ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of > men should take a look at this page. > > To find out what the fuss is all about visit: > > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ > > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > — > Aaron R. Kulkis > Unix Systems Engineer > ICQ # 3056642
– Thought for the day : Work like you don’t need money, Love like you’ve never been hurt, And dance like no one’s watching.
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She tells me she was born with the understanding that to have a happy marriage she would have to keep her man happy. I have enjoyed the benifit of that philosophy. My reaction has been to work my hadrest to make her as happy as I am. Yeah, I think you could say it works, but I don’t know anything about this lady, I just think it’s common sense. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -misscee wrote: > Gee does it work????? Hmmmmmm….. maybe I should join the Lady’s group. > ; ) > Miss Cee > Urf wrote: > > misscee wrote: > > > (Bobodean) wrote: > > > > What a bunch of shit. I wonder how people would feel if we had the roles > > > > reversed? > > > That’s an excellent point…but as long as it’s a consentual thing I don’t > > > see anything wrong with either a wife or husband submitting to their > > > spouse. But I wouldn’t submit that’s for sure.e > > My wife calls it…."keeping her man happy!"
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Good! Any real man would leave. These are the most simplistic of techniques used by imbecile women. Most notably strippers. With a real man, the woman loses using this technique. She has to beg him to come back. How much control does she have then? I’m speaking from experience here. I’ve been subjected to far more sophisticated techniques than this POS (piece of shit). Unfortunately. And I still dealt with it effectively. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -~Lust~ wrote: > This whole idea seems kind of manipulative to me…I always thought sex should > be a two way street…I consider myself to be an aggressive lover…and my so is my > partner…we give to each other and the sex is great…he would fuck me or lick me > anywhere or any time I ask him…and I wouldn’t have to play the mind games…I > guess there are some men who would fall for this little scheme…but to be honest, > I wouldn’t want a man that I could manipulate like this…I need a REAL man… > As far as "Real women don’t do housework.." why not ? I am very much a woman and > do housework every day…I think a woman should take care of her man and then he in > turn will take care of her…this is not something I’ve heard either….I know it’s > true…been there ! > It’s sorta funny when I think about it…there is no way I could try this with my > lover…it just wouldn’t work..and I wouldn’t have it any other way …. > ~Lust~ > Aaron R Kulkis wrote: > > ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > > > A wife wrote to me recently: > > > "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at > > > first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has > > > been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up > > > emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came > > > home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, > > > then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You > > > know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a > > > few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him > > > cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here > > > and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would > > > do just about anything." > > > Another wife wrote: > > > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > > > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > > > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > > > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > > > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > > > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > > > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > > > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > > > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > > > on letting him do that." > > This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of > > garbage > > that I have seen in several years. > > ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of > > men should take a look at this page. > > > To find out what the fuss is all about visit: > > > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ > > > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > > — > > Aaron R. Kulkis > > Unix Systems Engineer > > ICQ # 3056642 > — > Thought for the day : > Work like you don’t need money, > Love like you’ve never been hurt, > And dance like no one’s watching.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > A wife wrote to me recently: > "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at > first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has > been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up > emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came > home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, > then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You > know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a > few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him > cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here > and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would > do just about anything." > Another wife wrote: > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > on letting him do that."
This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of garbage that I have seen in several years. ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of men should take a look at this page. > To find out what the fuss is all about visit: > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
– Aaron R. Kulkis Unix Systems Engineer ICQ # 3056642
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Pardon me, but I don’t see a good relationship as either compromise or submission, I believe two loving people can be together and be individuals. I believe love does not need to mean chains. If you really love someone, you care about them, all about them. And you want to do your best to please him/her… and such things come easily. It is easy to work things out. You wash the dishes, cook a meal, clean house together, etc. And you make it all part of the word "intimacy," and enjoy every moment. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The Good Reverend wrote in message … >From the desk of the Reverend Coyote Moon, High Priest of Dionysus… >Aaron, allowing some content-based framework, said… >> >A relationship is about compromise, not domination. You want domination, >dress in leather and carry a whip. Cooking and beauty school? Dear God. If >that’s an authentic letter, you can put a muzzle on me and call me "Fido". >Not to say that men who take cooking and beauty classes are whipped little >men subservient to their women – on the contrary, I cook. I did theater >makeup for three years. Ms. Misato’s web page evidently has a >misconception (much like our departed friend Ray Gordon, AKA Outfoxing the >Foxes) that in order to make a relationship work, one person has to make >the other bend to his or her will. >Change the text of the message from "husband" to "wife", "he and him" to >"she and her", and substitute any number of things like bartending, auto >repair, and advanced video gaming for the schools listed and you have >something that I’d throw in the nearest garbage can when sprinting like >hell away from the local 301 Feminist Union. >Unless the post was a joke. In which case, it sucked. >The Good Reverend
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Very interesting topic, but I have a questions for you. what if the male is already doing all those things for the woman and she doesn’t respond at all. She doesn’t want sex or need the intimacy I crave. I have always perched my wife on a pedestal since we have been married (16 years) and I get nothing in return most times. I feel so envious to men who have a woman like you. I also can never understand why men treat you so badly. I know if I ever got a woman to be as intimate, sensitive and romantic as I am I would give her the moon. Any ideas?? Let me know at frosth…@hotmail.com
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FrostBear wrote: > Very interesting topic, but I have a questions for you. what if the male is > already doing all those things for the woman and she doesn’t respond at all. She > doesn’t want sex or need the intimacy I crave. I have always perched my wife on a > pedestal since we have been married (16 years) and I get nothing in return most > times. I feel so envious to men who have a woman like you. I also can never > understand why men treat you so badly. I know if I ever got a woman to be as > intimate, sensitive and romantic as I am I would give her the moon. Any ideas?? > Let me know at frosth…@hotmail.com
During a relationship, a man feels the most loved when he is making love. Conversely, a woman feels the most loved when she is the recipient of touching, affection, and gestures of romance. Both parties must understand and participate in both sides of this for relationships to generally work out. I’m curious, when is the last time you took your wife out on a real date? And when is the last time you tried a candle lit dinner? Did you consider it’s possible that her needs aren’t being met, either? Honestly, I can hardly know anything real about your relationship, but the best way to repair it is to take unilateral steps towards doing so by yourself. A renewed romance, after 16 years, might do wonders for you. It’s worth a try, don’t you think? C/
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I agree. This posting made me sick to my stomach. All I could picture was some x-rated, Hustler type marriage going on. Yuck. My husband and I look at sex as a two-way street, not a bargaining tool. I feel this exchange demeans both sexes.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Pete Turk wrote: > In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990201025239.12035B- > 100…@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, The Good Reverend <grou…@gladstone.uore > gon.edu> writes > >From the desk of the Reverend Coyote Moon, High Priest of Dionysus… > >Aaron, allowing some content-based framework, said… > >> ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > >> > A wife wrote to me recently: > >> > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > >> > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > >> > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > >> > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > >> > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > >> > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > >> > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > >> > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > >> > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I > >plan > >> > on letting him do that." > >> This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of > >> garbage > >> that I have seen in several years. > >> ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of > >> men should take a look at this page. > >While I’m still fuzzy on the whole concept of feminism and what it’s all > >about (intend to sit in on some feminism classes soon, and I can’t say I > >know enough about it to make statements like that) I completely agree. > Reverend, As you saw, the whole of Misato’s URL is > devoted to turning a marriage into a manipulative > one-sided tyranny. It’s not marriage, and it’s certainly > not romance.
Yet it’s typical thinking of American women, Pete. > Folks, the URL’s summed-up in this "anonymous"(!) > quote from Misato: > "Men are like a fine wine. They all start > out like grapes, and it’s *our job to stomp > on them* and keep them in the dark until > they mature into something you’d like to > have dinner with." — Anonymous > (my italics)
Typical attitude of a lot of American women… you know, the type who empty the bank account, and deplete all other liquid assets (earned by their husband) the day before having the same man who provided all of that wealth served with divorce papers. Pete, I’ve seen it toooooooooooo many times to think it’s just a series of coincidences. > But the one thing I don’t see is — Feminism! The > word’s not in the URL, which doesn’t pretend to be for > the good of women in general, just one very foolish > married woman in particular.
There’s no need to. > So, Aaron, I’ve looked, and I still don’t believe > that Feminism is about subjugation — any more than > romance is. True, there are women (like men) who > are dominating, are tyrannical, are fascist — > in the sense that they HATE all members of a given > category (e.g.. men, women, blacks, Jews, children etc.) > Women who feel like this have been called "femi-nazi", > and the average woman in the UK avoids them like > the plague. AFAIK, they’ve nothing to say to feminists > apart from their own negative example. > (fao anyone bar Aaron: for a FAQ from news.answers that > enlarges on this try: soc.feminism Terminologies by Cindy > Tittle Moore)
I don’t give two hoots about what politically palatable words they use in FAQ’s. Misato’s page is the TRUE FACE of feminism. (Ever hear of a Potomkin Village?) > Which of course goes far to explain your *rabid* > reaction, Aaron. In spite of your blatantly token > exceptions, you hate whole categories of people, just > like fascists. You don’t hate people for what they *do*, > you hate them for what they *are*.
Yes, I hate whole categories of people–those categories being defined by THEIR BELIEFS and THEIR BEHAVIOR. > >Unless the post was a joke. In which case, it sucked. > "Lady" Misato’s a troll, and certainly no lady.
No..she posts relentlessly in soc.men for the sole purpose of sidetracking any meaningful discussion. The woman is the essance of hatred towards ALL men. > Pete Turk <P…@ragtag.demon.co.uk> ICQ# 11981084 > RFA Moonshadow > — > May your doorstep ever be dirty. > — Romany blessing
– Aaron R. Kulkis Unix Systems Engineer ICQ # 3056642
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Has anybody looked at this website? It’s really fucked up!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > A wife wrote to me recently: > "Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at > first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has > been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up > emotionally, and he is very affectionate now. I am so into this. When I came > home from work he had dinner ready, cleaned up afterwards, did my laundry, > then rubbed me while I watched by favorite program. This is so much fun. You > know what I find that works best.. to award him like you say..stroke him a > few minutes get him all hot..then he is so eager to please..I don’t let him > cum until I am satisfied for the day, stroke him or use my mouth on him here > and there..boy he is like the energizer bunny, I think in this state he would > do just about anything." > Another wife wrote: > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > on letting him do that." > To find out what the fuss is all about visit: > http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Garden/8396/ > ———–== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==———- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
The really sad thing about this is neither wife seems to suggest "this is so nice, i wonder what i can do to make my husband as happy" They might as well be gold-diggers or whatever. Sick ppl. Turtle-Tracks
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.96.990201025239.12035B- 100…@gladstone.uoregon.edu>, The Good Reverend <grou…@gladstone.uore gon.edu> writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->From the desk of the Reverend Coyote Moon, High Priest of Dionysus… >Aaron, allowing some content-based framework, said… >> ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: >> > A wife wrote to me recently: >> > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband >> > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage >> > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe >> > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not >> > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web >> > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to >> > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and >> > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that >> > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I >plan >> > on letting him do that." >> This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of >> garbage >> that I have seen in several years. >> ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of >> men should take a look at this page. >While I’m still fuzzy on the whole concept of feminism and what it’s all >about (intend to sit in on some feminism classes soon, and I can’t say I >know enough about it to make statements like that) I completely agree.
Reverend, As you saw, the whole of Misato’s URL is devoted to turning a marriage into a manipulative one-sided tyranny. It’s not marriage, and it’s certainly not romance. Folks, the URL’s summed-up in this "anonymous"(!) quote from Misato: "Men are like a fine wine. They all start out like grapes, and it’s *our job to stomp on them* and keep them in the dark until they mature into something you’d like to have dinner with." — Anonymous (my italics) But the one thing I don’t see is — Feminism! The word’s not in the URL, which doesn’t pretend to be for the good of women in general, just one very foolish married woman in particular. So, Aaron, I’ve looked, and I still don’t believe that Feminism is about subjugation — any more than romance is. True, there are women (like men) who are dominating, are tyrannical, are fascist — in the sense that they HATE all members of a given category (e.g.. men, women, blacks, Jews, children etc.) Women who feel like this have been called "femi-nazi", and the average woman in the UK avoids them like the plague. AFAIK, they’ve nothing to say to feminists apart from their own negative example. (fao anyone bar Aaron: for a FAQ from news.answers that enlarges on this try: soc.feminism Terminologies by Cindy Tittle Moore) Which of course goes far to explain your *rabid* reaction, Aaron. In spite of your blatantly token exceptions, you hate whole categories of people, just like fascists. You don’t hate people for what they *do*, you hate them for what they *are*. >Unless the post was a joke. In which case, it sucked.
"Lady" Misato’s a troll, and certainly no lady. Pete Turk <P…@ragtag.demon.co.uk> ICQ# 11981084 RFA Moonshadow — May your doorstep ever be dirty. — Romany blessing
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From the desk of the Reverend Coyote Moon, High Priest of Dionysus… Aaron, allowing some content-based framework, said… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > > A wife wrote to me recently: > > "You just never know. I am now the undisputed Queen of my house. My husband > > confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage > > and our finances just a few days ago. I had no idea. I almost cant believe > > it!!!! It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not > > only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! Ms. Misato’s web > > page was a big help to my husband to break the ice as he was embarrassed to > > tell me. I have big plans for him. Maybe send him to massage school. and > > maybe cooking and beauty school too (manicures and pedicures!!) He says that > > he wants nothing more than to make my life easy. Music to my ears. And I plan > > on letting him do that." > This has got to be the most blatantly sexist, man-hating piece of > garbage > that I have seen in several years. > ANY MAN who doesn’t believe that Feminism is about the subjugation of > men should take a look at this page.
While I’m still fuzzy on the whole concept of feminism and what it’s all about (intend to sit in on some feminism classes soon, and I can’t say I know enough about it to make statements like that) I completely agree. A relationship is about compromise, not domination. You want domination, dress in leather and carry a whip. Cooking and beauty school? Dear God. If that’s an authentic letter, you can put a muzzle on me and call me "Fido". Not to say that men who take cooking and beauty classes are whipped little men subservient to their women – on the contrary, I cook. I did theater makeup for three years. Ms. Misato’s web page evidently has a misconception (much like our departed friend Ray Gordon, AKA Outfoxing the Foxes) that in order to make a relationship work, one person has to make the other bend to his or her will. Change the text of the message from "husband" to "wife", "he and him" to "she and her", and substitute any number of things like bartending, auto repair, and advanced video gaming for the schools listed and you have something that I’d throw in the nearest garbage can when sprinting like hell away from the local 301 Feminist Union. Unless the post was a joke. In which case, it sucked. The Good Reverend
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Oops! Forgot to "quote" what I was responding to. Sorry folks. Here goes again: Bobodean responded to: >>A wife wrote to me recently: >>"Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say >at >>first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has >>been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up >>emotionally, >snip…
With: >What a bunch of shit. I wonder how people would feel if we had the roles >reversed?
I agree. Overall it smacks a little of manipulating men for control….I’m sure it may be designed with the intention of both partners learning to please the other (giving the benefit of the doubt to the original poster), but comes off as a method of dog training used on men to gain the upper hand in some kind of control game. Dunno….but it didn’t appeal to me at all. I would not like to be on the receiving end of the "training". Of course Bo puts it much more simply…. 
Cherie You gotta laugh!
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>ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote:
My husband confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our marriage and our finances just a few days ago. It’s already better than I could have imagined with a husband who not only loves me with all his heart, he now even obeys me!!! and bee…@interlog.com wrote:
What also helps is when my husband does things to help me out or listens to MY needs… The next day, Steve came by work to get my apartment keys so that he could hang out and meet me after work (or so I thought). When I came home, he had cleaned the whole apartment, vaccuumed, dusted, cleaned the kitchen, bathroom and even done my laundry. He had cooked dinner and had it warming on the stove when I walked in the door. That night, he got GREAT sex!!!!" Hmmm. I’m beginning to see a pattern here. Beemer might phrase it differently, but she and "Lady Misato" ( who really deserves a good smacking around) seem to be after the same thing: female dominance. The only difference is that, with LM, her slave gets to lick her toes afterwards. Mark
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Mark, you are taking something totally out of context and making mean comments about my marriage which you know nothing about. Who are you? Do any of the regulars know this guy? Is he a troll? I tried to let this one go but it hurt too much to say nothing. Yes, I’m having marriage difficulties and yes, I add my probably, meaningless advice to the occasional post but I don’t believe this post was fair at all. Alison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -MDixon1918 wrote: > >ladymis…@hotmail.com wrote: > My husband confessed his desire to totally submit himself to me along with our > marriage > and our finances just a few days ago. It’s already better than I could have > imagined with a husband who not only loves me with all his heart, he now even > obeys me!!! > and bee…@interlog.com wrote: > What also helps is when my husband does things to help me out or listens to MY > needs… The next day, Steve came by work to get my apartment keys so that he > could hang out and meet me after work (or so I thought). When I came home, he > had cleaned the whole apartment, vaccuumed, dusted, cleaned the kitchen, > bathroom and even done my laundry. He had cooked dinner and had it warming on > the stove when I walked in the door. That night, he got GREAT sex!!!!" > Hmmm. I’m beginning to see a pattern here. Beemer might phrase it > differently, but she and "Lady Misato" ( who really deserves a good smacking > around) seem to be after the same thing: female dominance. The only difference > is that, with LM, her slave gets to lick her toes afterwards. > Mark
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It’s pure junk, Bo. The owner of the page obviously fabricated these weirdo responses so that it would get more hits. Think about it. Why would there EVER be a DISPUTED queen in any household? From my fantasy story memories, there is only ever ONE king and ONE queen in any family. ISIS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bobodean wrote in message <19990131174337.07823.00002…@ng-fr1.aol.com>… >>A wife wrote to me recently: >>"Hi, I hope you remember me, my husband showed me your page. I have to say at >>first this all seemed very strange and weird but let me tell you life has >>been great lately, I cannot thank you enough. I am getting him to open up >>emotionally, >snip… >What a bunch of shit. I wonder how people would feel if we had the roles >reversed?
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The men in the "posts", real or otherwise,sound like pure tee wimps. Sad. I could never look my husband in the eye if I was manipulating him that way! ISIS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Cheriekr wrote in message <19990131231802.01118.00002…@ng-ca1.aol.com>… >Bo, >I have to agree. It may be "just the thing" for some…but I, myself, prefer >being married to a man. The similarity to training and rewarding dogs to get >them to obey just doesn’t sit with me. >Do you also get the image I got when I read the letters?? The image of a man >drooling at his wife’s knees, begging for more pettings and crying that he just >wants to do MORE and MORE for those tasty rewards? Puts a >funny-but-really-yucky image in my head. Nope, not for me. >I like my man just the way he is…human, intelligent, able to think on his >own…faults and all! >Cherie >You gotta laugh!
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Bo, I have to agree. It may be "just the thing" for some…but I, myself, prefer being married to a man. The similarity to training and rewarding dogs to get them to obey just doesn’t sit with me. Do you also get the image I got when I read the letters?? The image of a man drooling at his wife’s knees, begging for more pettings and crying that he just wants to do MORE and MORE for those tasty rewards? Puts a funny-but-really-yucky image in my head. Nope, not for me. I like my man just the way he is…human, intelligent, able to think on his own…faults and all! Cherie You gotta laugh!
